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Salmon River Report 2017

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Greetings ... been a long time. Just hate it when work gets in the way of fishing.

2016 I wasn't able to make a single night trip to Pulaski. 2017 I hope will be different.

I have been able to make my annual spring fishing trips to the Great Smoky Mountains National Park the past few years. I did have to set it back a few weeks from my original date of April 30 through May 7th due to very high flow rates. The weeks leading up to the first planned trip was 2,170 cfs on 23 April. So it got moved back to June 3 - 10. Had ideal flows at that time.

 

Onto the Salmon River ...

 

Hope for a wet season with great flows to bring them in on time and droves???

 

Let's hope so !!!

 

LOOKING GOOD SO FAR

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The salmon run has been slightly off the past few years/

You can always tell how a town is doing by the property up for sale.

 

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River House Restaurant  $700k

 

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Ponderosa  $950k

 

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Tractor Supply 38,540 SF $4 to $10 SF

 

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Waffle Works  $295k

 

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Yankee Fly Shop  $114k

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Comes with its very own private dance pole and lighting....   why am I not surprised ?

 

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Man is it good to see some old familiar names.

I hope everyone has been well.

Brk Trt

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I want to go out there sometime. I know the fish run in the fall and spring but not exactly sure of the window in which they are in the river. If I were to plan a trip to go when would be a good time? Never been so any input would be much appreciated 

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Usually the first major run of salmon begins around the second week of September,  the height of the runs (and fishermen) Columbus Day weekend.

I will put up some lodging information soon. Book early so you can get a place to stay.

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8 hours ago, BRK TRT said:

Man is it good to see some old familiar names.

I hope everyone has been well.

Brk Trt

I still have your "Journal" print hanging right along side my desk here. 

Really good to know you are still here as well my friend.

Doing well, and hope the same for you too.

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The warm summer rains, hot humid days, mowing the lawn ...

 

What's the matter with you... !

 

FORGETABOUTIT

 

THINK ICE - SNOW - FREEZING WATER

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Think steelhead

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15 hours ago, AK Skim said:

I still have your "Journal" print hanging right along side my desk here. 

Really good to know you are still here as well my friend.

Doing well, and hope the same for you too.

Things have been going well for me, good health the main one.

I read that book you sent me by Mike Valla...Catskill Flies. A few of the patterns have been super for me.

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New York acquires 6,000 acres around Salmon River

Gov. Andrew Cuomo called it the largest public acquisition of land in central New York in more than 45 years. The state now owns 6,000 acres of land along and around the Salmon River, which is a major economic and tourism asset for Oswego County.

"It's a fishing mecca the Salmon River, and it got even better today with the additional land we are acquiring," Cuomo said. "That will mean more people can access the river."

Cuomo says the fishing industry in Oswego County is a $42 million business. Oswego County Legislature Chairman Kevin Gardner said the Salmon River attracts anglers from around the world. 

"Oswego County is proud to be home of such national treasure and the state's acquisition of the additional land will help secure and protect this resource for Oswego County residents far into the future," Gardner said. 

New York is getting 2,800 acres of that land for free. It's part of a 2005 consent decree reached with National Grid after the company allegedly violated the Clean Air Act. Department of Environmental Conservation Commissioner Basil Seggos says the other 3,000 acres were purchased from private land owners for $4.5 million.

"It's going to open up an enormous amount of recreational opportunity, hunting, upland fishing and things like logging which is very important to this area," Seggos said. 

Seggos says state officials will hold public meetings soon for input on how to develop the land, like on trails.

Lake Ontario Flood Grants

While in Altmar, Cuomo also announced that the state will offer $5 million in small business grants for those affected by the Lake Ontario flooding. Beginning in June, small business owners can apply for up to $20,000 for lost or damaged property and assets. The grants are available for the counties under the governor's emergency declaration, including Oswego, Jefferson, Cayuga, Wayne, Monroe, St. Lawrence, Niagara and Orleans counties.

The announcement comes as many businesses, like the Greene Point Marina and mobile home park in Sandy Creek, are under water from the historically high Lake Ontario levels.

State legislators are currently considering additional funding to help residents and small businesses recoup their losses from the flooding.

 

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SALMON RIVER FLOW RATES

Prior to 1996 the power company controlled the flow rates from the dam dependent upon electrical power demands.

During the summer months over the weekend when the power demand was high water would be released to generate the electricity.

Monday through Friday when everyone was at work the power demand was low and they would release less water.

In 1996 a base flow rate was established as part of the Federal Energy Regulation Commission re-licensing of Niagara Mohawk Power to protect the salmon populations in the river.

It established a minimum flow rates from the dam.

May 1 to August 31st 185 cfs

September 1 to December 31st 350 cfs

January 1 to April 30th 285 cfs

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NYDEC Great Lakes Tributaries Regulations

These regulations apply to the designated tributary areas of the New York waters of Lake Erie, the Upper and Lower Niagara River, Lake Ontario, the St. Lawrence River.

Areas of the tributaries which are subject to these regulations are generally defined as the bridge closest to the mouth upstream to the first barrier impassable to fish.

Tributaries with different boundaries and exemptions are listed separately below.

Note that there are also seasonal tackle restrictions and restrictions on night fishing in the tributaries.

Statewide angling regulations apply for species not listed.

At All Times:

•Snatching and attempting to snatch is prohibited. Snatching is indicated by repeated or exaggerated jerking motions of the fishing rod.

•All foul-hooked fish must be immediately released without unnecessary injury.

•Use or possession of gaff hooks is prohibited except when ice fishing.

•Any action to frighten fish and move them from concealment, including herding, driving, kicking or stoning is prohibited.

Great Lakes Tributaries With Seasonal Regulations;

Salmon River

From the upstream most navigation buoy located between the breakwalls at the mouth upstream to the County Route 52 bridge in Altmar See additional special fly fishing only, catch and release areas and regulations for the Salmon River (Oswego County) which are listed here separately.

Seasonal Regulations for Waters Listed Above

Effective Dates for Special Seasonal Tributary Regulations

Special tributary regulations are effective SEPTEMBER 1 THROUGH MARCH 31 for all tributaries except the Salmon River in Oswego County where the effective dates are AUGUST 15 THROUGH APRIL 14.

Fishing Hours

Fishing at night (one half hour after sunset until one half hour before sunrise) is prohibited, except in the Black River (Jefferson County) from Lake Ontario upstream to the Route 180 bridge in Dexter where fishing is permitted at all times and in the Salmon River in Oswego County where fishing at night is permitted from Lake Ontario to the Route 3 bridge from April 1 through August 14.

Hooks

•Hooks attached to any lure, except an artificial fly must be free-swinging.

•Hooks may have a gap (distance between the shank and the point) of no more than one half inch except for floating lure bead chain configurations on the Salmon River as permitted below.

•Use of hooks with added weight is prohibited, except that artificial flies with no more than one-eighth ounce of added weight may be used. For the purposes of this regulation, the method by which weight is added to a hook does not affect classification as an "artificial fly" provided the conditions of the definition of an "artificial fly" are otherwise met.

•Only one hook with a single hook point is permitted, except that floating lures may have multiple hooks including double and treble hooks only as permitted below or in Lake Erie tributaries where multiple hook points are permitted.

Floating Lures

•A "floating lure" is a lure that floats while at rest in water regardless of any weight attached to the line, leader or lure.
•Any hooks on a floating lure must be attached to the lure by a ring or swivel.
•The distance between the body of a floating lure and the points of any attached hooks shall not exceed one and one-half inches.

Waters With Restrictions On The Use Of Multiple Hooks with Multiple Points On Floating Lures

Salmon River

Restricted to 1 hook with a single hook point August 15 through October 31

Additional regulations on Floating Lures in the Salmon River

Where floating lures are allowed to be used on the Salmon River, the following additional regulations apply:

From August 15th through October 31st, a bead chain may be attached to the floating lure with a ring.

The bead chain configuration may not exceed a distance of three-and-one-half inches between the body of the floating lure and the hook point.

The hook in the bead chain configuration shall not have a hook gap greater than five-eighths inch.

Leaders and Weights

•The distance between the hook, artificial fly or lure and any weight attached to the line or leader, whether fixed or sliding, shall not exceed four feet.

•In addition, when the above special tributary regulations are in effect for Lake Ontario tributaries in Oswego and Cayuga Counties, and the Genesee River (Monroe County) from the Driving Park Bridge upstream to the Lower Falls: weight shall not be added to the line, leader, swivels, artificial fly or lure in any manner such that the weight hangs lower than the attached hook, artificial fly or lure when the line or leader is suspended vertically from the rod.

Special Regulations for the Salmon River (Oswego County) Fly Fishing Catch-And-Release Areas

Location

Two stream sections between County Route 52 Bridge in Altmar and the Lighthouse Hill Reservoir.

Fishing Hours, Season Dates & Boundaries

Angling permitted: from 1/2 hour before sunrise to one-half hour after sunset. Trespassing prohibited at night.

Lower Fly Section: September 15 through May 15. From County Route 52 bridge in Altmar upstream .25 miles to the marked boundary at Beaverdam Brook.

Upper Fly Section: April 1 through November 30. From a marked boundary upstream of the New York State Salmon River Fish Hatchery property to marked boundary approximately 0.6 miles upstream at the Lighthouse Hill Reservoir tailrace.

Fishing is prohibited outside the open season.

Regulations

Catch & Release: All fish must be immediately released without unnecessary injury.

Tackle Restrictions: Tackle is restricted to a traditional fly rod, fly reel, fly line, and artificial fly (As permitted below).

Restrictions on fly lines, flies, attractors, leaders and supplemental weight:

Fly Lines

•Use of less than 20 feet of floating, sinking, or combination floating/sinking fly line or shooting head immediately behind the leader and in front of any running line or other backing is prohibited.

•Between May 1 and August 31: Floating Fly Lines Only.

•Between September 1 and April 30: Floating, Sinking, and Sinktip fly lines are permitted.

Flies

•Between May 1 and August 31: a single unweighted artificial fly having one hook point with a one-half inch maximum gap only permitted.

•Between September 1 and April 30: a single unweighted or weighted artificial fly with no more than 1/8 oz. added weight, having one hook point with a one-half-inch maximum gap only permitted.

Attractors

•The use of added baits or attractors such as, but not limited to, fish eggs, insects, beads, spoons, spinners, plugs, or similar devices on the line above the artificial fly is prohibited.

Leaders

•The total length of the leader including the tippet shall not exceed 15 feet.

•Between May 1 and August 31: sinking and metal leaders are prohibited.

Additional Weight

•Between May 1 and August 31: the use of supplemental weight such as split shot, sinkers, metal leaders, twistons, or swivels attached to the leader, tippet, fly line or fly is prohibited.

•Between September 1 and April 30: the use of supplemental weight is permitted with the following restrictions.

- The combined weight of any supplemental weight and fly may not exceed one-eighth of an ounce.

- The maximum distance between the artificial fly and any added weight to the line, leader or tippet shall not exceed four feet.

- Weight added to the line, leader, swivels, or artificial fly in any manner such that the weight hangs lower than the attached fly is prohibited.

Note: the Daily Limit for Rainbow Trout or Steelhead Is One Fish per Day for All Lake Ontario Tributaries Except Lower Niagara River.

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SALMON RIVER PHOTOS OF YESTERYEAR

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SALMON RIVER PHOTOS OF YESTERYEAR

 

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YAHOOoooo !

 

Only thing missing  is the snow... and ME

 

Alright you too..

 

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SALMON RIVER PHOTOS OF YESTERYEAR - 2006

 

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I haven't done it in a few years, but I use to go up in the summer when the flows were at their minimal to walk the river scouting

the bottom for slots that could be used to hold fish later in the season.

I got the idea the previous steelhead season when a guy was hooking up fish after fish in the same area, so I wanted to see what was there.

Can't really see it in the photo there is a nice slot straight out in front, about foot and a half wide and twelve to eighteen inches deep.

I hope to make it up there in a few weeks and walk the river again, this time without running into any snakes.

 

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