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From the Douglaston Salmon Run (DSR)

 

Standing Notice

When the Salmon River’s dam release (h2oline) exceeds 2,000 cfs, the DSR will be closed to fishing and open only for office hours. DSR will return to posted fishing hours once the dam release is less than 2,000 cfs 

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DSR Fishing Report 7/31/17

7/31/2017
 

One angler took advantage of the cool morning and fished the run for a few hours before the heat of the day set in. He reported decent action with the bass before the sun heated things up, landing a handful of smallies, a couple of northern pike, and one unknown fish that jumped and got away before it was brought to hand. The water temp this morning was 66F, and water flows will remain at 185cfs through midnight Tues. Showers tomorrow morning, but overall, another nice day with a high temp of 79F. 

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Central New York Fishing Hotline

July 28 - August 4

 

Lake Ontario

Try for smallmouth bass in 10 to 20 foot of water with crayfish, tube jigs or drop-shot rigs. Chinook salmon fishing continues to be good with fish being found in 150 to 300 foot of water; if your not marking bait or fish, keep covering water to you find them. Cut-bait, spoons and flasher and flies are still working and green continues to be a good color.

 

Oswego River

The river is back up, again, and is at 10,400 cubic feet per second (cfs) as of 7/28. Harborfest is taking place this weekend so expect more boat traffic in the region. Look for smallmouth bass in the river with crayfish or tube jigs, also try crayfish for the sheepshead.

Remember, the bridge to Leto Island is closed, and there are mandatory personal flotation device (PFD) zones on the river. Visit Oswego County Tourism web site for more information on this and also for information on the life jacket loaner programs in the area.

Salmon River

 

This river flow is at 185 cfs as of 7/28. Things are quiet on the river this time of year, which is normal, a few smallmouth bass are being caught.

The Salmon River Fish Hatchery building continues to be closed due to construction. The grounds, including picnic area and fish ladder, are still open dawn to dusk. We anticipate construction to be finished early summer. If you are planning a visit, we suggest calling the Salmon River Fish Hatchery in advance. You can reach the hatchery at 315-298-5051, Monday through Friday 8:30 AM to 3:30 PM.

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DSR River Report 8/1/17
8/1/2017
 

Its officially August, and boy, is the summer flying by! No fresh fishing reports for today. We experienced a hot, sunny day on the run. We never received any rain this morning. Water flows remain at 185cfs through midnight Weds. Another warm day tomorrow, high around 82F with a chance of thunderstorms in the afternoon. 

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DSR 8/2/17 River Report
8/3/2017
 

August arrived and cranked up the heat! Beautiful mornings have given way to HOT afternoons here in Pulaski. Yesterday (8/2), we had a decent handful of anglers join us to enjoy the beautiful weather and spend time on the water. Most of our guests covered the run top to bottom and were rewarded with a few bass (up to 15") and a number of fall fish. The water temperature was 68 degrees at 8am and was solidly in the 70's yesterday afternoon. Today's weather looks like more of the same but overnight thunderstorms carrying over into tomorrow should break the heat. Additionally, flows will go back up this weekend for another white water release. 

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DSR River Report 8/4/17
8/4/2017
 

Hot and sunny today made for a quiet day on the run. We narrowly missed a thunderstorm this afternoon, but the nearby thunder was continuous for quite a while! Flows are currently at 350cfs, but will bump up to 750cfs at 9pm tonight through 6pm Sunday. The water temp this morning was 69F. Even though we dodged a thunderstorm this afternoon, there's a good chance we may get more tonight. Things will cool down over the weekend, with highs in the upper 60s tomorrow. 

We are still waiting to see our first salmon, we will be sure to post an update as soon as we get a verified report!

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DSR fishing report 5 August 2017
8/5/2017
 

a quiet day, overcast with sporadic sunshine, warm, calm, some cooling breezes - CFS up to 750 over the weekend (scheduled release), 893 at Pineville - two clients spent a couple of hours scouting the lower section - no salmon sighted yet

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DSR Fishing Report August 6
8/6/2017
 

Only a couple anglers fished the run this morning and only landed a few small fish.  Water temperature this morning was 67 degrees and the flow from the reservoir will be going from 750 cfs to 350 cfs at 6:00 PM tonight.

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DSR fishing report 8 August 2017
8/8/2017
 

there have been (unsubstantiated) rumours, for the past two weeks, of some early Kings (Chinook) being caught within pools in the Village of Pulaski - this morning, one of our guides and a River Patrol member scouted the Joss Hole in the middle section of our run and sighted two Chinook of average size - so, it is now "official" (at least for the DSR) that the salmon have started to move into the river! Water levels are at 350 / 557 today, with water temperatures somewhat cooler than normal (65 degrees) for this time of the year. You should also know that charter boats have been extremely successful offshore this entire summer . . . shaping up to be a good season.

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updated fishing report 8 August 2017
8/8/2017
 

CFS is now 600 at the dam until midnight 13 August - three clients, who had been on the water from 6:30 AM until 2:45 PM, reported catching Smallmouth Bass from 10" to 16", but did not see any salmon moving in the lower section

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DSR

 

Summer has finally arrived but high water from heavy spring rains continues to be an issue for the entire Lake Ontario watershed. In the Salmon River estuary, water is still several feet above normal, blanketing the islands and making the lower end of the DSR difficult to access. Forecasters predict lake levels to drop by one inch per week, so we are keeping our fingers crossed that conditions are favorable by the time salmon begin to migrate upstream. Of course, we will keep you updated as soon as we see the first signs of activity. August will be here before we know it, fish on!

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Central New York Fishing Hotline

 

August 4 - August 11

A number of county web sites offer good information on fishing in the region, including bait shops, guides, etc. A few examples are: Onondaga County (fishonondagacounty.com); Oswego County (visitoswegocounty.com); and Wayne County (waynecountytourism.com). Oswego and Wayne counties also have a weekly fishing hotline on their web pages.

April 1st was the start of the new Freshwater Fishing Regulation Guide: April 1, 2017 - March 31, 2018. You can obtain a copy from a licensing agent or view it at Summary of Freshwater Fishing Regulations.

 

Region 7

 

Lake Ontario

Chinook salmon fishing continues to be very good with fish being found in 150 to 450 foot of water. Down depth varies but 60 to 90 feet down has been a good starting point. Cut-bait, spoons and flasher and flies are still working and green continues to be a good color. Try for smallmouth bass in 10 to 20 foot of water with crayfish, tube jigs or drop-shot rigs.

Oswego River

The river is down from last week and is at 7,020 cubic feet per second (cfs) as of 8/04. Look for smallmouth bass in the river with crayfish or tube jigs, also try crayfish for the sheepshead.

Remember, the bridge to Leto Island is closed, and there are mandatory personal flotation device (PFD) zones on the river. Visit Oswego County Tourism web site for more information on this and also for information on the life jacket loaner programs in the area.

Salmon River

This river flow is at 750 cfs as of 8/04. Things are quiet on the river this time of year, which is normal, a few smallmouth bass are being caught.

The Salmon River Fish Hatchery building continues to be closed due to construction. The grounds, including picnic area and fish ladder, are still open dawn to dusk. We anticipate construction to be finished early summer. If you are planning a visit, we suggest calling the Salmon River Fish Hatchery in advance. You can reach the hatchery at 315-298-5051, Monday through Friday 8:30 AM to 3:30 PM.

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Report from the All Seasons Sports web site in Pulaski

 

Hi Guys n Gals! 
Captain Rick Pecci 
The "Dreams Come True" Charters And  Guide Service
#315-790-7412
www.dreamscometruecharters.com

It's now the beginning of August, and the lake fishing is still on fire! Kings up to 36lbs. have been taken already and the most bites of fish and numbers as our record season and we have a long way to go. There also is Salmon in Oswego Harbor already porpoising around! And that's the earliest I have ever heard of.

You can catch all the Brown Trout you want from 70 to 100 foot of water from the High Rocks West. Spoons are the top bait. Fish your riggers closer to the bottom 30 feet. 2.3 to 2.8 on your down speed.

And the Kings are just crazy right now biting all kinds of baits. Spoons, Flasher/Fly's and Cut Bait is all you need to put Kings in the boat. Many colors and patterns have been producing like Stinger Brand spoons in NBK, Gator, Frostbite, Green Die Hard and Glow Green Alewive in the Stingray and Magnum size. You can also ask what the hottest colors are as of late. A-Tom-MiK Trolling fly's especially the all new Stud fly is a must have out there right now. Total Chaos Fly's in any of the see through green patterns have been hot also Like Nucular Orgasm, Dream Team and Sting A King. Spin Dr.'s, Pro-Trolls and Pro King flashers have all been taking fish in many colors. Pig pen 1 has been good. 

Cut bait has also been super hot in many combinations and colors.12" green and white Pro-Trolls and 11" Kingfisher blades in various colors have been outstanding. Teaser rigs in the same colors in glow will do the trick.

120 feet to as deep as 300 feet of water seems to be the targeted zone for now. 90 to 140 feet on the ball down. Speed varies upon current and direction but 2.3 to 2.5 has been good. Dipsy Divers 30# on a 2 setting out from 200 to 350 feet out and Mag Divers out the same have all taken fish. All launches are now reopen and the water has came down quite a bit as of late. Some of the best fishing I have seen since the 2012 record season. good luck and "Tight Lines"

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Drift boat ride from Altmar to Pineville.

It changes seasons but it continues down river so you are not missing any of the river.

ENJOY !

 

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Some nice fall aerial views from Rt. 52 bridge pool, Unemployment line, Barrel Hole, Schoolhouse pool, Upper and Lower Wire Holes, Frazier's Run, and Ellis Cove.

 

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Lake fishing to the south of the Salmon River, salmon are 150 plus feet deep.

You still have time to plan for the first run.

Hopefully in the next couple of weeks they will be higher up in the water column.

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Pineville gauge flows so far this summer have been above average.

Hopefully there will not be a repeat of last year conservation measures.

 

 

October 2016

DEC Announces Water Conservation Measures to Maintain Salmon River Flows

Reduced Releases from Salmon River Reservoir to Conserve Water

Drought Forces Temporary Closure of Lower Fly Section to Protect Salmon Run

Ongoing drought conditions in the Salmon River watershed have forced Brookfield Renewable in collaboration with the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC) to reduce the amount of water released to the Salmon River from the Salmon River Reservoir starting Thursday, September 29.
In addition, DEC will close the Lower Fly Fishing Area on the Salmon River in conjunction with the reduced flows. This closure applies only to the Lower Fly Area, and the remainder of the 13-plus miles of the river accessible to the public will remain open.
"New York's fish hatchery system is a vital part of our effort to sustain our popular and economically important recreational fisheries," said DEC Commissioner Basil Seggos. "The reduced water flows and closure will help ensure that adequate numbers of salmon enter DEC's Salmon River Hatchery in order to provide eggs for salmon stocking that support Lake Ontario and tributary fisheries."
A 2007 study estimated the value of these fisheries to New York State's economy at $12.9 million. DEC is concerned that unintentional fishing mortality of Pacific Salmon could impact egg take operations if too much water is released.
The ¼-mile section of the Salmon River that comprises the Lower Fly Fishing Area is located immediately downstream of the Salmon River Hatchery and upstream of the County Rt. 52 Bridge in Altmar. The upper boundary of the area is just downstream from Beaverdam Brook. This location is a staging area for various species of fish, including Chinook and coho salmon, as they prepare to enter the hatchery via Beaverdam Brook. The closure will remain in effect as long as flow reductions are necessary.
Flows will be increased as soon as rainfall patterns change and reservoir water levels necessary to maintain these flows are restored. The Lower Fly Area will be reopened when flows permit and Salmon River Hatchery egg-take operations are completed.
Should salmon returns to the hatchery be inadequate, DEC has developed a contingency plan to secure additional salmon eggs from other Lake Ontario tributaries. Further information on these actions can be obtained by contacting the DEC Fisheries Unit in Cortland at fwfish7@dec.ny.gov or by phone at (607) 753-3095.

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NYDEC

Salmon Hatchery staff completed Steelhead egg collections on Wednesday April 5th, 2017. Over 640 female steelhead were handled over four days, resulting in over 2.4 million eggs collected (exceeding the 2.15 million egg target). Fish hatched from these eggs will be raised in the hatchery for approximately one year, and will be stocked as spring yearlings in 2018. An additional 149,328 eggs were collected from Skamania strain steelhead. Steelhead are stocked every spring in tributaries to Lake Ontario and Lake Erie where they contribute to the open lake and tributary fisheries. Current Lake Ontario Steelhead/rainbow trout stocking includes 497,700 Washington strain yearlings, 43,000 Skamania strain yearlings and 75,000 domestic strain rainbow trout yearlings.

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A post from another fishing board earlier this year. February 2017  

 

Good news for the Steelhead population - Thiamine deficiency is on the decline.

The problematic year with the Thiamine deficiency in steelhead was the fall of 2014 thru the spring of 2015. We do not have any definitive number of moralities but it surely was fairly high. That being said, there were still thousands of adult steelhead at the hatchery in the spring of 2015. 

The fall of 2015 through the spring of 2016 saw way fewer reports of the thiamine deficiency syndrome in steelhead. 

This fall 2016 thru the present time period of 2017 have seen virtually no reports of the syndrome. That is not to say the fish are not thiamine deficient but if they are it must be at a threshold where it is not as severe as a few years ago.'

Sincerely,

Maybe the super cold winters of 2013 - 2014 and 2014 - 2015 did effect the baitfish. Last winter was pretty mild...this winter matches the super warm one we had 2012 - 2013.

This is good news....I think in the 2 - 3 years fishing should be back on track ..from very tough to good. Who knows maybe in 4-5 years it will be ridiculously good(15 20 hookup days).

Like I said, I still enjoy going up, although I like a few hookups per day.

In December - driving in snow, preparing, unpacking, putting in 8 hours on the river, FREEZING, for NOTHING is not my cup of tea.... I like a lil reward for hard effort!! Maybe you don't- I DO.

Hence, going 0 for 1 and 0 for 0 was not fun in December. 

It is hard work now, but I still enjoy days - I hit a few. That nice male I landed with a great fight ...make that one day worth it to me. I don't mind it as much, having a bad day when it is nice, in the spring summer and fall. In the cold winter days, I like a lil action.

I think if I had a choice, I would want it just a little better than now. I think when they fish are STACKED -- like 2012 2013...anyone and their mother can hook up. These hard times of fishing, separate the men from the boys, so to speak.

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